Robar/10-8/MSW/Glock 17 Revisited

Robar/10-8/MSW Glock with TLR-1

With the recent attention and series of articles on modified polymer pistols, I thought revisiting my Robar/10-8/MSW/Glock was in order. As the recent series of evaluations have highlighted, extensive modifications to polymer pistols are usually a want to do, rather than a have to do, decision. Having said that, as I stated in my previous evaluations modifying your pistol to best suit you and to ensure it’s 100% reliability falls squarely into the have to do category.

As most would agree a WML is a must have on a duty handgun and is certainly at the top of the list for a defensive handgun. While somewhat bulky for concealed carry for many people, mounting a WML on the home defense handgun is a prudent choice.

I’ve found that the Streamlight TLR-1 meets my needs and gives a good balance of useable light, battery life, size, and cost. The bulb is an LED which gives a much better life span and shock resistance than an incandescent bulb. The light output is rated as 135 lumens. The rocker switch allows the shooter to lock the light on, or use the light intermittently, which can be done with either the support hand thumb or the trigger finger while in register position along the frame.

I recently installed a LaserMax Guide Rod Laser. In my case the laser is the LMS-1141P which fits Gen 1,2,3 Glock Models 17,22,31,37. My main reason for installing the laser is from an Instructor’s perspective of being able to evaluate it’s use and the pro’s and con’s of lasers, as well as a training aid. I’ve had many students attend class with lasers installed and many have questions about the technology. (More on the LMS-1141P in a later article).

Robar/10-8/MSW Glock with LaserMax 1141P Installed

My other modifications to the pistol include the addition of a Tango Down Vickers Slide Release and a Glock Extended Magazine Release, both which allow me faster and easier use over the stock versions.

At this point the pistol has fired over 5000 rounds with no issues which were the fault of the gun. The majority of those rounds have been reloaded ammunition. As I noted in my previous series of articles on this pistol, that was without the benefit of lubrication or cleaning. Since the 2500 round mark was reached the pistol has been cleaned and lubricated with MiliTec per my usual schedule.

I did polish the internal parts and install a Glock factory “Minus” Connector which yielded the trigger pull you see in the photograph. That is the average of 10 trigger pulls on the Lyman Trigger Pull Gauge. This yields a useable trigger which is safe in a defensive situation. I feel you can do better work with smooth trigger pull vs. a light trigger pull, especially in a defensive pistol.

Robar/10-8/MSW Glock Trigger Pull Results.

While some of my modifications might not suit you or your defensive pistol needs, and some might be considered unnecessary by some. For me as a full time Police Officer and Firearms Instructor they are must haves. Also those of us who do this for a living tend to serve as the test bed for both the technology and training which goes along with the advancements in that technology. If we’re smart and are doing our jobs, we hopefully filter out the bad and pass on the good to our students, while refining our teachings and adapting to advancements in that technology.

Stay Safe.


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About Bob Henckel

Bob Henckel is a retired Police Officer and currently serves with the Department of the Air Force. He has 40 years combined military and law enforcement experience. Bob has experience in Patrol, Training, Emergency Service Team Member and was the Senior Firearms Instructor and Armorer in his previous department. Bob also has over 25 years experience as a Firearms Instructor. He holds numerous Instructor Certifications in Pistol, Carbine and Shotgun. He is also a Certified Instructor in Concealed Carry, Force On Force, Active Shooter, NRA Advanced Pistol Instructor, ASP Baton and OC Spray.

6 thoughts on “Robar/10-8/MSW/Glock 17 Revisited

  1. To the author or any author at 10-8: I’ve wondered about the polymer frame on Glocks bending upward at the muzzle side with use. It doesn’t seem to affect reliability or accuracy, but is this a problem in some way and is there a fix?

    • Cole
      I’ve been using Glocks for 19 years, and have been an armorer the entire time. The bend you speak about is nothing to worry about. To my knowledge there is no fix and no reason too.
      Stay Safe

  2. Nice Glock. I have had Robar do a lot of work for me. They do some great work. You can’t beat there texture. I see you got to Vickers slide release . I have switched all my Glock extended slide releases to Vickers slide releases . Really like the feel of the Vickers slide release .
    Nice looking Glock.

  3. I was taking another look at the Glock. It looks really good.if you have not tried a Robar beaver tail you will put them on all your Glocks . No more dreaded slide bite and drawing is even faster. Your hand drives right into the top of the gun for a very nice grip. Now on to the texture. This is added on to the grip. What ever slippery stuff you get on your hands you can still maintain a slid grip on that old pistolal. Once you try these mods you will want them. The guys at Robar are great. The General manager Freddie Bliss is very knowledgable on all modifications. You can’t go wrong with Robar. The only bad thing is they still don’t have a hat and shirt. That’s my only complaint. Freddie get a shirt they will sell. Take it easy guys.

    • JohnS
      The featured pistol has the Robar Beavertail and Texture. If you haven’t checked out the original 4 part evaluation you can check it out here on MSW. Or on Robar’s website as well. Freddie was great to work with during the customization of my pistol.
      Stay Safe.

  4. Looking forward to your article on the LaserMax Guide Rod Laser. Because I’m left-handed, the Crimson Trace grip mounted units don’t work well for me, since my thumbs block the beam; therefore, I’m thinking of installing a LM on my G30.

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