Glock Pistols and the Grip Pressure Conundrum

For the early part of my on again/off again relationship with the Glock pistol, I had fits that I could shoot those little bitty, caliber and half sized groups at seven yards with repeatable boredom.  The problem I experienced, along with many others it seems, is that the group was consistently to the left of point of aim.  I am a right handed shooter.

I started becoming a serious student of the Glock seven or eight years ago due to work.  I fought it, aimed to the right for qualifications, and drifted sights as a solution.  The most frustrating thing is that when ball and dummy drills are introduced, no movement would be observed in the front sight.  It drove me crazy.

Then about six or so years ago, I was helping out with a cadet class at the state police academy when I observed the same thing with a group of cadets.  Right handed shooters were grouping left, and left handed shooters were grouping to the right with no visual clues during ball and dummy drills.

I went home and began to isolate parts of the shooting sequence to see if I could not figure it out.  Eventually, holding the gun with only pressure on the front strap and back, I began to hit point of aim/point of impact.  Eventually, I found out that I could death grip the gun as hard as I wanted as long as I only placed grip pressure squarely on axis of the front strap to the back strap with no side loading.

Some people have called the problem “Glock milking”, or simply milking the grip on a Glock with the strong hand.  I don’t believe the terminology is quite right as milking will manifest itself in some sight movement during ball and dummy drills.  This is not the case with introducing side load into the strong hand of the pistol.

Some folks have successfully countered the issue with stronger pressure on the support hand of the pistol.  It does seem to be hit and miss, however.

All I try to do is this.  With the strong hand, I place a moderate amount of grip on the pistol to support it out in front of me.   The support hand fills in the gaps and provides 360 degree pressure on the gun.  I put just enough pressure front to back that a magazine of shooting will leave a checkering imprint on the meat of my my palm under the thumb.  I also found that in placing pressure front strap to back strap it gives me extra lock out on the strong side wrist, stabilizing the gun shot to shot for faster sight return.

 

Chasing Our Tails?: Polymer Service Pistol Mods

 

Two bone stock pistols which will get the job done, even if they are not extra cool or super fun.

In Tim’s recent article on modifying modern polymer service pistols, many questions came up which I want to now address a little more in my usual nuts and bolts technical manner. I have spent more than my share of time building custom 1911s and working on/with/around polymer service pistols, and have put quite a bit of thought into the whole topic of modified pistols.

The bottom line for pistol modifications is making the gun work better for you. In the custom 1911 world that meant reliability, sights, and trigger, in that order. Everything after that is just fluff and fun. To keep the scope of this article a bit tighter, we’ll focus on the two most popular polymer service pistols, the Glock and M&P. Continue reading

Army Resumes Search for New Service Pistol

Photo: FoxNews.com

A recent article on FoxNews.com indicated that the Army is looking for a new “more powerful” service pistol to replace the aging fleet of M9′s and M11′s in DoD inventory. It is of interest that the effort is potentially aimed at a larger caliber while domestic LE is starting a move away from .40 toward the 9mm. What do you think of this project?

More Musings on Modifying the Modern Polymer Service Pistol

Disturbingly, Hilton and I are both hearing more and more about failures on the range or in classes of heavily modified polymer pistols. There are more and more “shops” coming out of the woodwork advertising customization and enhancement of Glocks and M&Ps and not all are created equal. Many commonly offer CNC machine work or grip texturing to improve the handling characteristics of the pistol. Some other shops offer “improved” fire control parts to lighten and or improve the feedback of the trigger. Unfortunately, most of the time, modification of the factory fire control parts ends up meaning a decrease in reliability and/or durability of the weapon.

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Practice with Back Up Guns

I think that most all police officers, and some armed citizens to a point, are carrying back up guns as a norm.  Back in the day, most carried Walther PPK’s and Smith and Wesson J-frames as a back up gun.  When the Glock 26/27 debuted, the world was set on its ear.  The compatibility alone made sense for the agencies that issued the G17/22 to add the “baby” Glocks as back ups. Continue reading

HK VP9

HK set the internet on fire yesterday with the announcement of the pending release of their long awaited striker fired pistol, the VP9.  Derived from the popular P30, the VP9 – presumably harkening back to the naming of the VP70, the “Volkspistole” (“People’s Pistol”) – would seem to be the pistol that many have been hoping HK would finally make. Continue reading

Glock 42: Range Session #3

When I last visited the range with the Glock 42, I got a lot of good one handed shooting work in.  I had waited a bit to get back out with the gun until my new holster arrived – a Ghost pocket holster from Griffon Industries.  With holster in pocket, it was time to finally work some draws with this little gun. Continue reading

The Fragile Fiber Optic Front Sight….?

It comes up frequently that fiber optic front sights are inappropriate for practical/street use because they are fragile or that they are a liability because they become useless when the fiber rod falls out.  These arguments have been taken as gospel in many circles, and simply regurgitated as needed.  Having spent just a little bit of time using, designing, and studying sights, I would like to offer some thoughts on this. Continue reading

Sight Radius- What role does it really play in a defensive pistol?

Recently, I’ve been shooting some drills from concealment with various pistols from the Glock 9mm family.  My thinking over the years on a defensive pistol is that it should be one that fits a couple of simple criteria: a pistol that is reliable, and one that you’ll carry every day.  For some, a Ruger LCP fits the bill.  A Ruger in the pocket always beats a custom M1911 in the car when it comes down to needing it now. However, I’ve always advocated carrying the most gun that you can comfortably carry. Some will say there is an “average” gun fight (IE 1-3 feet, 1-3 Seconds, 1-3 rounds fired).  I feel that there is no such thing as “average” and if I can perform these tasks at 25 yards at speed, the close in stuff is a chip shot.  However, merely banging away at contact distance doesn’t equate to hitting stuff at distance if it becomes a lifesaving requirement.  But, that is a conversation for another day. Continue reading

Glock 42: First Range Session

Before we start with the range report on the Glock 42, I need to get a few things out of the way that always seem like such a big source of hurt feelings whenever this gun is mentioned:

1) No, I don’t think a .380 is the best caliber choice.

2) Yes, I am fully aware that .380 is a fairly weak caliber.

3) I get that any pistol carried in the pocket is less “tactical” than in a normal hip holster.

4) Yes, I sure wish the Glock 42 was a 9mm of the same size, but it’s not.

5) Yes, I know there are smaller .380 pistols on the market.

Ok, happy now?  This pistol is already extremely popular and prolific, and we would just be sticking our heads in the sand if we decided not to look at it just because we objected to something about it.  Get over it.  And now back to our regularly scheduled programming…. Continue reading